“A page of prophetic history turned in May of 1948,” says Max Lucado about living in what he calls “the fourth quarter.” “Wars and rumors of wars,” the encircling of Israel by her enemies, and the way our world seems to have turned upside down may be the “birth pains of the tribulation.” But Max says we have no need to fear, because “if you want to know the end, go to the beginning,” and Max takes Glenn all the way back to the bliss of the Garden of Eden. In a conversation about AI, transgenderism, the startling rate of teen suicide, and the rise of the antichrist, Max manages to focus on the hope of a millennial kingdom where “Satan is bound and Christ is crowned.” Glenn asks Max to convince him of a pre-tribulation rapture and for his best advice for resisting the “mark of the beast.” After discussing the Olympic opening ceremonies, the pair consider the near-assassination of Donald Trump and how God “doesn’t exist to make a big deal about America,” but we do exist to make a big deal about God.

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